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Crime and punishment

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15 years 8 months ago #1507 by ConcertForGeorgeNut
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A story has surfaced over the last few days involving a former NSW and Australian rugby league player, and now top TV personality, Matthew Johns. The story relates to allegations made by a woman against Johns and other men about an incident that allegedly took place 7 years ago in New Zealand.

Four Corners will be featuring the story in its program next Monday night.

www.leaguehq.com.au/news/lhqnews/johns-resp onds-to-allegation/2009/05/07/1241289304916.html

I'm sorry, but, for me, the media doesn't count as a proper forum or authority for these kinds of allegations. If women want them to be taken seriously, the legal process is the only proper one for all concerned.

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15 years 8 months ago #1527 by SweetNess
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I agree with you, George. I've been watching the news quite closely and I can't understand how some 'news' programs feel that they have the authority to demand that Johns appear on television to answer for his actions.

From what I can gather, this young woman participated in group sex with a number of footy players including Matty Johns. It came to the attention of the authorities at the time and an investigation was launched. It was then found that the sex was consensual.

In the years since, the young lady has been suffering from depression and thoughts of suicide. So, naturally, she turned to the media for help.

I don't follow the logic here. :huh:

Since when does the media have greater investigative powers in the field of crime and punishment than our professional officers of the law?

Why would anybody choose a public forum as an arena for assuaging their guilty consciences over prior bad decisions?

This was over seven years ago and I don't see any benefit in dragging Matty Johns or his family thru public hell over something that really isn't anybody's business but that of the participants and the authorities, and the authorities have already made their decision. I can't help but wonder what the real motives of the young lady are in dredging up something at this point and in this manner. Wouldn't most of us get professional counselling for something like this?
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15 years 8 months ago #1528 by Tushy
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From what I gather, the show was mainly about what the NRL are doing about all this thats been going on, which includes this story - all the covering up etc thats been going on all these years ---
I didnt watch it, but thats what I got told..

I actually disagree with you Ness - I think he is in the wrong and he knows it.
As he said, I knew that this was gonna come bite me on the arse - he has pretty much admitted he was in the wrong.
If he knew - I hope he has a good plan

He also apologized to her that the other guys came in the room, was only suppose to be him and her. He has said that.
She admitted she was petrified when she saw them..
Supposedly she has been seeing a counsellor all this time

I dont know what her motives are to bring this all up again, maybe with everything coming out in the paper, she has brought up this story as well..maybe it gave her confidence, who knows.. and seems other people have come forward with stories to tell as well.
They said, they didnt do anything about it because its not just him (the player) they woulda had to fight - woulda been the club, the fans, the whole shoo bang...

I dont know if she is asking anything of it, but time will tell...

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15 years 8 months ago #1534 by Tushy
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Good to see -- but I was even happier to hear the Storm came forward and sacked him on his part time job -- good on ya Melbourne : )

If the NRL - and all footy codes are fair dinkum about cleaning out this bullshit, time to go back and clean out the cobwebs they hid..covering all these idiots arses all these years........

So name and shame the others now -- where are they??

Every time they travel, these people have been a disgrace

If they wanna get paid big bikkies, be expected to be watched - if you dont wanna be watched - dont get paid and get out........go to the local footy club and see the lifestyle you get......

No sympathy...

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15 years 8 months ago #1535 by ConcertForGeorgeNut
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Can't agree with that, Tushy. What's happened here is trial and conviction by the media. If the law didn't work out for the woman. That's the way it goes.

The only people Johns owes an apology to out of this are his wife and kids. He deserves to have neither a wife nor kids after this

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15 years 8 months ago #1536 by Tushy
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George, this weighed on his mind for a long time -- he knew it was gonna come back and bite him on the bum... why??
If she was so willing - he shouldnt have been worried...

I wouldnt be surprised if the club helped them with the law... as they have all these years..

Thems the breaks - he chose to be there, he lives with it...

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15 years 8 months ago #1537 by ConcertForGeorgeNut
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I agree that Matt Johns would've and should've been left with some lingering mental torture. But, he was never arrested, charged, convicted or sentenced for any criminal offence. It's not up to the media to determine right or wrong. That's what the law's there for.

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15 years 8 months ago #1538 by Tushy
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George, we the public, make them big or we make them little
He has become little........

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15 years 8 months ago #1539 by SweetNess
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What he did may be immoral but it's not illegal. I've known many ppl who've participated in this sort of thing. Not my cup of tea but whatever floats yer boat.

If he was Joe the welder or Doug the plumber and he and his buddies picked up some chick in a pub and did the same thing, none of us would be the wiser. Come to think of it, this kind of thing probably happens dozens of times a night in Australia but we never hear of it. Why? Cuz it's nobody's business but that of those participating.

The only reason it's being made a big deal of now is cuz of Johns' association with sports and ppl are just tired of the Sailors, Stewarts, Cousins, and d'Arcy's of Australia.

Of course it sure doesn't hurt if it boosts a few ratings either.
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15 years 8 months ago #1540 by Tushy
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Thats its Ness - when the public pays your bills, they make you and they can break you

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